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Teenage Bicyclist Survives 150-Foot Plunge Off Angeles Crest Highway

The 16-year-old Altadena boy rode his bike too close to the edge before he slipped of a cliff.

A 16-year-old bicyclist from Altadena survived a 150-foot fall off Angeles Crest Highway on Wednesday, Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department officials said.

The rider rode down the winding highway about 7:55 a.m. when he came too close to the edge and slipped off at milemarker 28.5, dropping 150 feet straight down, according to Sheriff's Capt. Dave Silversparre of the Crescenta Valley Station. 

Montrose Search and Rescue team was called out along with Crescenta Valley Station deputies to handle the incident, Silversparre told Patch.  

The rider, whose name was not released, was air lifted out by a Los Angeles County Fire helicopter and brought to a waiting ambulance at the turn out, he said.

He was transported to Huntington Memorial Hospital by ambulance with minor sprains and scratches, Silversparre said. 

not Carl Peterson lll November 12, 2012 at 12:17 AM
Great formula. sorry, off topic but....I have a roadblock on multiplying an item by time. Just like E=mc2. Unless the speed is in re: to the energy of momentum of the mass moving?? If you actually know how this works....How do you multiply the "aceleration by the square of time"?
William Korn November 12, 2012 at 01:28 AM
Buzz, I don't know if I could explain it to you rigorously, since calculus and I do not have a very good relationship. But let's think about the physics of what's happening with a freely falling object. For reasons that not even Einstein could correctly explain, there is this "force" called gravity, in which objects that are made out of stuff (i.e. "have mass") exert a "pull" on each other. That pull is essentially constant over reasonably short distances whether or not one of the objects is already falling, and (if one of the objects is the Earth) it increases the velocity of the falling object by 32 feet/second for every second the object continues freely falling. Accordingly, any formula that calculates how far an object falls for a given amount of time has to take time into account. Why it is the "square of the time" and not just the time, I can't tell you (see me & calculus, above). But the proof of the pudding is that the formula does accurately measure the velocity an object freely falls (in a vacuum) for any given time. I also have no idea why or how "c" (the speed of light in a vacuum) let alone the square of the speed of light, figures into Einstein's famous equation. If you like, I can try and find an explanation online that's simple enough that we both get it and share it with you.
Diana R Rising November 12, 2012 at 03:24 AM
My brothers are the Rising sons.:) It is funny, but my parents didn't know Diana was the pagan Roman goddess of the moon when they named me, so it is cool how it worked out.
Diana R Rising November 12, 2012 at 03:27 AM
I'm glad he is ok, but I want to know what brand of head protection he was wearing. That probably prevented a concussion or something worse.
not Carl Peterson lll November 12, 2012 at 04:06 AM
I have trail-run--hiked over 10,000 miles over the years, about 20% in the dark. But Angeles Crest Highway on a bike just seems to risky for me..... Having said that, don't text and hike in the dark, even on a wide fire road..... Not that I have done that..... Or anything ...and if I did, i cought myself before falling.... Mostly... Both times.
yeahian November 12, 2012 at 06:51 AM
I longboard down it I rarely get passed by a car. It is not a very challenging descent.MAybe a popped tire, or negligent motorist could of caused it, but other than that even if you lost your brakes it wouldn't be that big of a deal on this rd.
ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 13, 2012 at 02:52 AM
The square of light is more a truism than an active member in the equation. What it is saying is there is a potential for un-imaginable energy locked up in the atoms that make up the mass
ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 13, 2012 at 02:55 AM
Maybe he ate alot of beans and blew himself off the road....maybe he flew like ET
ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 13, 2012 at 02:56 AM
I feel pretty well for an old f--t....thx for asking...b
not Carl Peterson lll November 13, 2012 at 03:19 AM
Robert, I am trying to work through this... "The square of light...more truism..than an active member...because...unimaginable endergy locked upin atoms....that make up............ mass........wait..........patching...........patching........404 error...memory full line 10....ohh, and thats his speed when gravity is computed! OK I finally get it!!!
not Carl Peterson lll November 13, 2012 at 03:25 AM
If the final point on the smallest scale...like a plank length or shorter is as suspected a wave of energy, and no real "mass" exists, the equation still works. " space and time exist inside a mathematical object, and not visa versa"......
ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 13, 2012 at 03:54 AM
Buzz....Maybe we are turning our te-da-tes into some humor for the group...actually, quite funny..especially the following post via Diana who wondered what brand of HEAD PROTECTION HE was wearing..:) I meant to say speed of light, not light. But, I was able to follow your line of reasoning. That kid has gotten more press than any kid in So. Cal, I bet...b
ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 13, 2012 at 04:05 AM
I think Nicole runs a tight ship, so.....is there any corrrilation between your chosen name and what you say.....:)
William Korn November 13, 2012 at 06:37 AM
Robert, you've certainly hit the nail on the head about unimaginable energy. The problem I have with "c-sqaured" is not the number itself, but how it was that Einstein worked out that the term was necessary in the equation. It's not as obvious as why time is a necessary factor in computing the velocity of a freely falling object. But them Relativity and other esoteric aspects of physics (see quantum mechanics) are not really all that intuitive or obvious at the level most people encounter the universe.
William Korn November 13, 2012 at 06:38 AM
*But then...
not Carl Peterson lll November 13, 2012 at 07:20 AM
William korn, I read your last comment of 10:38. How familiar are you with quantum physics. I am NOT a science major in life, but once I read the ramifications of the double slit photons, and "spooky action at a distance", after the original shock, I was hooked.
ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 13, 2012 at 12:56 PM
Hi Bill Corn: I can define my knowledgw on the subject this way: Is quantum physics a type of Physical Therapy? I did look this up on the net once and forgot what it said. Diana, bless your heart, you really are curioua about that helmet it seems. I would take the info you know such as the hospital he went to or try to find his home and ask. Or, you might call the Montrose Sherriff Sta and ask .... they were envolved in the rescue I think....b
Mr. Grogg November 13, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Regarding those wondering why time is a necessary component to calculating velcocity: Velocity is a speed measured in a particular direction. And what is speed but distance combined with time? You can't express speed without time. You might drive 55 miles per hour, but you'll never drive 55 miles per inch or 55 miles per blue. (You might go 55 miles per apple, but that's a rate of apple consumption over distance - not a measure of speed.) So, anytime you are going to measure the speed of something you must include a time factor or you'll get a nonsensical answer.
ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 14, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Only Ms. Charky could answer this, but what was there about a kid falling off a bicycle that elicited so many intereresting responses ? I like Mr Grogg's writing because it stimulated thinking like wondering if there might be a fanciful world where you could go 55 miles per inch. Maybe a snail would feel that way if it combined his world with ours. What about ds/dt.....change of distance traveled per change in time ? Acceleration and deceleration. All of this and Diana still does not know what kind of head protection the kid wore. The best head protection lies within the head. If there is not much of that, then what lies within the head may wind up lying outside the head. Just thot I would give you a heads up on that so you won't head in the wrong direction. Do any of you like the Talking Heads ? I need to head out to my writing class ...You folks are too heady sometimes....b
RT November 15, 2012 at 04:18 PM
Invasion Of The Nerds.
William Korn November 15, 2012 at 05:51 PM
Buzz & Robert. I've read some about it, and viewed some of Richard Feynman's talks about it on YouTube. I have a lot of trouble wrapping my mind around it, because it's so counterintuitive to what I can personally observe in the world around me. Yet there's obviously something to it, since the semiconductors that help make my computer compute are an outgrowth on physicists' understanding of quantum theory.
William Korn November 15, 2012 at 05:54 PM
That's true, RT. But it's more fun (for me) than talking about politics, which I sometimes do far too much of on these pages.
ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM
Don't know if it is true, but I have heard the etymology (sp) of politics is "Many Idiots"
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ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 23, 2012 at 02:30 PM
My Grandmother could write better than that....
Diana R Rising November 25, 2012 at 06:38 AM
Very funny, my comment that the hayes comment was weird is removed, but the hayes comment is still there. I recommend no one click those links, they are likely to infect your computer.
not Carl Peterson lll November 25, 2012 at 06:53 AM
i would guess that the moderator deleted the wrong one by accident.
ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 25, 2012 at 07:15 AM
Diana... Seriously..you are infecting me with your class of writing....very cool. I have been wondering about the biker lately...he just disappeared....from off this thread, I mean...and, I suppose that in a way, he just disappeared. I would guess you never found out what brand of helmet he had.....I also appreciated your rebuke of some rather crude expressions used by another person. Maybe the person who is obsessed by sending links is the guy who rode his bike off the cliff. Wouldn;t that be a gas if it were true.. Maybe his teen friends are rejoicing that he was not hurt abit; he is just the same. Hope you had a safe and sane Thanksgiving....LOL b[
Diana R Rising November 26, 2012 at 01:28 AM
Robert, if I read you right, you are suggesting that hayes is the bike-rider with the secret, super-special helmet. it sounds good to me. I hope your Thanksgiving was great. Mine was.
ROBERT E. FISHBACK November 26, 2012 at 01:39 AM
Diana: I was just trying to be funny. I am glad your T.G went well. I got another strange note from someone who is related to the nasty mouth. I guess we know where ronda got it.....absolutely nut cases...b

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